WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
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WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
Sem cooldown de 30min
# Retaliation: now a 5 minute Cooldown. Instantly counterattack any enemy that strikes you in melee for 12 sec. Melee attacks made from behind cannot be counterattacked. A maximum of 20 attacks will cause retaliation.
# Recklessness: Now a 5 Minute Cooldown. Your next 0 special ability attacks have an additional 100% to critically hit but all damage taken is increased by 20%. Lasts 12 sec.
# Shield Wall: Now a 5 Minute Cooldown. Reduces all damage taken by 60% (up from 50%) for 12 sec.
Outras mudanças
Last Stand: Now has a 6 minutes cooldown (Down from 8 Minute).
Shield Slam: Now trainable.
Sunder Armor: Threat now scales with attack power.
Defensive Stance: Now increases threat by 45% (up from 30%).
Revenge damage has been slightly reduced, it is now affected by AP.
Disarm cost changed from 20 rage to 15 rage.
Thunder Clap: Damage now scales with Attack Power. Cooldown increased from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.
Mocking Blow: Only one Rank, Causes Weapon Damage. Cooldown changed to 1 minute, now usable in defensive stance.
Heroic Strike: Now increases melee damage by 10% instead of doing an additional set amount of damage
Crushing Blow
Foi "praticamente removido" do jogo, agora voce so leva crushing de mob 4 lvls acima do seu.
Como os Bosses atuais possuem lvl73 e os mobs das raids futuras vão ter lvl83 não vai mais levar crush e não tem para se preocupar com o Shield Block spam.
Shield Block agora vai ser um botão de emergência mesmo, assim como o shield wall.
Shear do Illidian
Cabei de ver no fórum oficial que se ficar impossivel de se tankar o illidan no PTR com as mudanças por causa do shield block, o Shear podera mudar.
Mais informações sobre warriors na exp: http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Warrior ... _Abilities
# Retaliation: now a 5 minute Cooldown. Instantly counterattack any enemy that strikes you in melee for 12 sec. Melee attacks made from behind cannot be counterattacked. A maximum of 20 attacks will cause retaliation.
# Recklessness: Now a 5 Minute Cooldown. Your next 0 special ability attacks have an additional 100% to critically hit but all damage taken is increased by 20%. Lasts 12 sec.
# Shield Wall: Now a 5 Minute Cooldown. Reduces all damage taken by 60% (up from 50%) for 12 sec.
Outras mudanças
Last Stand: Now has a 6 minutes cooldown (Down from 8 Minute).
Shield Slam: Now trainable.
Sunder Armor: Threat now scales with attack power.
Defensive Stance: Now increases threat by 45% (up from 30%).
Revenge damage has been slightly reduced, it is now affected by AP.
Disarm cost changed from 20 rage to 15 rage.
Thunder Clap: Damage now scales with Attack Power. Cooldown increased from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.
Mocking Blow: Only one Rank, Causes Weapon Damage. Cooldown changed to 1 minute, now usable in defensive stance.
Heroic Strike: Now increases melee damage by 10% instead of doing an additional set amount of damage
Crushing Blow
Foi "praticamente removido" do jogo, agora voce so leva crushing de mob 4 lvls acima do seu.
Como os Bosses atuais possuem lvl73 e os mobs das raids futuras vão ter lvl83 não vai mais levar crush e não tem para se preocupar com o Shield Block spam.
Shield Block agora vai ser um botão de emergência mesmo, assim como o shield wall.
Shear do Illidian
Cabei de ver no fórum oficial que se ficar impossivel de se tankar o illidan no PTR com as mudanças por causa do shield block, o Shear podera mudar.
Mais informações sobre warriors na exp: http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Warrior ... _Abilities
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
a WotLK promete muito pra nós , sei que tem pouca gente acompanhando de perto o que tá acontecendo com os warriors , várias coisas mudaram na Prot tree mas o que que me fez pular 100 metros de alegria foi isso :
Can you confirm that we'll be able to do DPS without having to switch gear?
Yes. That is the goal. Prot pallies too. You won't be doing as much damage as an Arms warrior, but you shouldn't be standing around wishing you had enough rage to have fun. You will likely also keep your shield on when soloing, though some warrirors do this on Live. To be honest, I am a little nervous that when we next do our tests, Prot's dps is going to be higher than Arms. That's probably overkill, and you might laugh at the thought, but that's the degree of changes we're talking about. (And we would certainly readjust if that ends up being the case.)
THIS IS SPARTA !!!
Can you confirm that we'll be able to do DPS without having to switch gear?
Yes. That is the goal. Prot pallies too. You won't be doing as much damage as an Arms warrior, but you shouldn't be standing around wishing you had enough rage to have fun. You will likely also keep your shield on when soloing, though some warrirors do this on Live. To be honest, I am a little nervous that when we next do our tests, Prot's dps is going to be higher than Arms. That's probably overkill, and you might laugh at the thought, but that's the degree of changes we're talking about. (And we would certainly readjust if that ends up being the case.)
THIS IS SPARTA !!!
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
Glyph of Resonating Power - Increases the maximum targets affected by your Thunder Clap ability by 4.
um aviso aos paladinos :
vocês peidam !? A gente dá shock ! =P
um aviso aos paladinos :
vocês peidam !? A gente dá shock ! =P
Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
Drao escreveu:Glyph of Resonating Power - Increases the maximum targets affected by your Thunder Clap ability by 4.
um aviso aos paladinos :
vocês peidam !? A gente dá shock ! =P
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
mais mudanças nos talentos e o Titans Grip ainda está no vai e volta ...
màiores informações :
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/tankspot ... iding.html
màiores informações :
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/tankspot ... iding.html
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
E seguindo as mudanças vai algumas sugestões de buids para level 70 e 80
Dps pve
70fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 3120501351
80fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 3120501351
70 arms: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
80 arms: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
pvp:
70 fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0122511351
80 fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0122511351
70 arms: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
80 arms: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
70 protc: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
80 protc: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
Tanker pve:
70 protc: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
80 protc: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
Comentem, critiquem, deem ideias!!!
Dps pve
70fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 3120501351
80fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 3120501351
70 arms: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
80 arms: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
pvp:
70 fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0122511351
80 fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0122511351
70 arms: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
80 arms: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
70 protc: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
80 protc: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
Tanker pve:
70 protc: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
80 protc: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 0000000000
Comentem, critiquem, deem ideias!!!
O armory não mostra o Crit, AP e Hit que os Talentos dão
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
Source: Ghostcrawler, WotLK Developer
Armored to the Teeth -- Changed to AP, but amount reduced to 1 per 360 armor (to compensate for the loss of Blessings of Kings etc.). We implemented this talent for dps warriors and didn't want it to feel like the ultimate Shield Block Value talent. It's still good for Protection, just not as good. Death Knights will get the same treatment.
Thunder Clap -- Increase in threat generation. No target limit. Swipe gets the same treatment. With these changes, all 4 tank classes should be able to generate very respectable AE threat. Consecration is still a little higher in threat to account for Thunder Clap's debuff.
Revenge -- Added to Sword and Board as a chance to proc Shield Slam. Increased its damage significantly. We want Revenge to be the button you push first.
Shield Slam -- Increased its flat damage to compensate for the Devastate nerf a few weeks ago. The Revenge change will help dps too, though only when you're tanking. We didn't want to increase the scaling portion of Shield Slam for fear that warrior threat becomes too high at ultimate gear levels, but we might still change it if they fall behind. We're not saying (for now) that Prot must do dps with a shield instead of dual-wielding Devastates, but this should make it more viable.
Armored to the Teeth -- Changed to AP, but amount reduced to 1 per 360 armor (to compensate for the loss of Blessings of Kings etc.). We implemented this talent for dps warriors and didn't want it to feel like the ultimate Shield Block Value talent. It's still good for Protection, just not as good. Death Knights will get the same treatment.
Thunder Clap -- Increase in threat generation. No target limit. Swipe gets the same treatment. With these changes, all 4 tank classes should be able to generate very respectable AE threat. Consecration is still a little higher in threat to account for Thunder Clap's debuff.
Revenge -- Added to Sword and Board as a chance to proc Shield Slam. Increased its damage significantly. We want Revenge to be the button you push first.
Shield Slam -- Increased its flat damage to compensate for the Devastate nerf a few weeks ago. The Revenge change will help dps too, though only when you're tanking. We didn't want to increase the scaling portion of Shield Slam for fear that warrior threat becomes too high at ultimate gear levels, but we might still change it if they fall behind. We're not saying (for now) that Prot must do dps with a shield instead of dual-wielding Devastates, but this should make it more viable.
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
o talento pary aumenta a chance de eu dar parry em um ataque contra mim, pra pve dps normalmente se coloca pontos lá porque não tem outra coisa pra colocar mesmo, pra tanker é muito bom e pvp também
O armory não mostra o Crit, AP e Hit que os Talentos dão
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Sim, eu sei, o q eu quis dizer é que não é melhor colocar pontos no Tactical Mastery ou Improved Rend ou até maximizar o Iron Will?
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
pra usar rent vc precisa estar em battlestance, não compensa trocar de stence só pra usar rent, tatical master, está no segundo tier, logo eu tenho q ter obrigatoriamente 5 pontons no tier 1, o que deixa pelo menos dois pontos em pary de qualquer jeito, maximizar o Iron will eh interessante, porem não tão util assim pra dps pve
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Iron Will pode n ser tão útil para PVE, mas o parry te atrapalha cara, logo, eu colocaria os pontos necessários nele só pra abrir o tier de cima, o resto colocaria em Iron Will mesmo... Cada vez q vc der parry na exp, vc vai lembrar dessa conversa. ehhehehehehe
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
sim, o pary diminui o rage q eu ganho!!!!
Iron will ftw
Iron will ftw
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Re: WOTLK - Warriors Mudanças
80 pve fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 3120501351
70 pve fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 3120501351
OMFG
70 pve fury: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior ... 3120501351
OMFG
O armory não mostra o Crit, AP e Hit que os Talentos dão