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Fim do iDragon ?!?!

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 10:33 am
por Viperrox
Se o que li no site da Ally Alpha for verdade é o fim do iDragon....

Quero saber o que vocês acham.... caso seja verdade eu acho uma pena....

leiam o diálogo abaixo:
This is what I got from IRC...

* Sephieroth sets mode: +v S3th4r1us
<pheox|zzz> !silence
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<pheox|zzz> !op drake|bloodbane
* Sephieroth sets mode: +o drake|bloodbane
<drake|bloodbane> wtf, i'm banned from #IDragon3d -.-'
<drake|bloodbane> ok
<pheox|zzz> pooned
<drake|bloodbane> bad news
<Crim|Here> lol
<[P]PenaFuriqta> lol
<drake|bloodbane> let me post the last words of zenith:
<drake|bloodbane> ZenithDragon scrive:
<drake|bloodbane> sorry, drake. but I think I made final decision to closed servers.
<[P]PenaFuriqta> why?
<drake|bloodbane> In my real life, there is a huge issue with me now. I don't know how to explain for now. but I will stop hosting servers now. I have a lot of pressure in recent days. I think I need to stop what I am doing for now.
<drake|bloodbane> for all 3 servers I think I will pay for 30K total for it will stop today.
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* pheox|zzz sets mode: -vv [LOL]Naza14PL [E]pr0n
<drake|bloodbane> I have to quit it now.
<drake|bloodbane> let me introduce you what happened in real:
<drake|bloodbane> 1- the month's expenses:
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<drake|bloodbane> a) Dragon: 124$/month (100mbit, 1000gb limit)
<drake|bloodbane> Nightmare: same of Dragon
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<drake|bloodbane> c) Zenith: 92$/month (10mbit, 1000gb)
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<drake|bloodbane> d) leasing: 200$/month (all the three machines) x 12 months
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<drake|bloodbane> ok, let's now introduce the server income: 3000$ (at least, usually more)
<bastorBG> hi all
<drake|bloodbane> do your calculations
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<[P]PenaFuriqta> cloese only nightmare
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<drake|bloodbane> as you can figure: income is more that expenses
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<Crim|Here> why don't you just keep dragon up..
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<Crim|Here> or why dosen't he
<drake|bloodbane> have you read?
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<drake|bloodbane> zenith have done a BIG mistake
<drake|bloodbane> for just 300$/month we was able to get unlimited bandwidth
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<drake|bloodbane> total of 900$, no problem to keep that (3000$ income)
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<drake|bloodbane> but zenith greedyness won
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<drake|bloodbane> so we outrunned a lot of times and we had to pay taxes over taxes (in this month)
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<drake|bloodbane> so zenith decided to close all
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<drake|bloodbane> so, 'cause idragon3d is dead, i'm going to open my own server ('cause zenith have done nothing... just got money)
<drake|bloodbane> more important: in all 11months of work for idragon3d i got nothing
<drake|bloodbane> all in the pockets of zenith
* [SoD]Reizla-SAD is now known as [SoD]Reizla-afk
<drake|bloodbane> i just got 600$ on december
<drake|bloodbane> for "merry christmas" (december income: around 10000$)
<drake|bloodbane> for who ask about db
<drake|bloodbane> well, bad news: i don't have access at the machines
<drake|bloodbane> i'm cutted out
<drake|bloodbane> too
<drake|bloodbane> like you
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<drake|bloodbane> for, luckily 2 days ago (god exists!) i have done whole bkup of my files (codes, scripts, etc...)
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<drake|bloodbane> so i can start a server in 1 day
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<pheox|zzz> how to get a server?
<drake|bloodbane> http://www.calpop.com
<drake|bloodbane> we are gonna to get a server there
<drake|bloodbane> if we can get 3 servers, beter
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<drake|bloodbane> we need a 100mbit (but we can limit it at 10mbit too if the starting money is low. 10mbit means 1200players)
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<drake|bloodbane> and we need dualxeon machines
<drake|bloodbane> if anyone want help
<drake|bloodbane> drake@0000111.com is my paypal. if no one want help, well... we will try anyway to get them
<drake|bloodbane> Shadow server is still us (is mine and of my friend)
<drake|bloodbane> so we will put Dragon15x on that machine
<drake|bloodbane> (luckily we have done that new server outside idragon3d and zenith itself)
<nQx> will you transfer the character database? or start over?.
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<drake|bloodbane> about the DB: again, i'm cutted out by zenith
<drake|bloodbane> he closed access to the servers also to me
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<drake|bloodbane> i will try again to access them
<drake|bloodbane> if i successfully get the DB, i will put them up
<drake|bloodbane> but actually the success rate of this is less than 10%
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<drake|bloodbane> barto, i'm the one fucked
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<drake|bloodbane> 11months of work to get only this
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<drake|bloodbane> backstabbed
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<nQx> zenith pocketed all the money. drake did all the work. and only got $600 out of the whole year
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<drake|bloodbane> so, if anyone trust me (i hope) help me. btw i will try anyway to resurrect the servers
* UwillDoSomethin is now known as ImSure
<drake|bloodbane> i hope today to have a new webserv setup
<drake|bloodbane> (actually i'm in university, i will arrive at home in 5 hours)
<drake|bloodbane> so i will setup a new website and a new forum
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<drake|bloodbane> about your loaders
<drake|bloodbane> luckily i have it under a dyndns
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<drake|bloodbane> so i can redirect them all
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<drake|bloodbane> i will write further news inside the "welcome" message
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<pheox|zzz> and once again, nQx is NOT voodoox >.>
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<drake|bloodbane> lol
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<drake|bloodbane> again: i don't force anyone to help.
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<drake|bloodbane> if you feel to help us, nice. if you don't want/can't.... no problem
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<pheox|zzz> !unsilence

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 11:12 am
por Katsui
:shock:
Puts... eu tive a paciencia e li tudo... Agora a situação ficou séria... pelo q eu percebi e bem provavel q ele feche o idragon
:cry:


valeu ae a noticia ViperRox..
vamos aguardar p ver o que ele vai postar no Site...

falows

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 12:05 pm
por Terra Nova
Puts só falta essa, agora que animei de começar a jogar... :cry:

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 12:20 pm
por Biga
pelo o que eu entendi ele vai abrir 1 novo server dps vai tentar "roubar" os outros 3 servers do zenith, o idragon (15x) como prioridade, foi o que entendi

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 12:30 pm
por protestante
independentemente dos servers serem recuperados pelo drake, tudo começará do 0 (zero)!

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 12:37 pm
por shillien
Deixa eu postar apenas com o Drake e o nQx falando :
--- 30/01/06 --- #idragon3d.chat ---
[09:43:32] <nQx> IDragon3d Is now CLOSED. DEAD. GONE.
[09:43:35] <nQx> but.
[09:43:43] <nQx> Drake and I are creating a new server
[09:43:59] <nQx> our goal is to get $1,000 of donations. and we will create our own servers
[09:44:06] <nQx> i do not want to get into deep details
[09:44:14] <nQx> about idragon3d servers.
[09:44:20] <nQx> but. they are closed
[09:44:33] <nQx> if you like drakes work. and would like to come play on our new servers
[09:44:42] <nQx> it everyone would donate some. it would be appreciated
[09:44:54] <nQx> drakes paypal is currently
[09:45:11] <nQx> drake@0000111.com
[09:45:32] <nQx> when we reach the $1,000 goal
[09:45:37] <nQx> we will put the first server online.
[09:46:12] <nQx> ill see if i can get drake on mirc
[09:46:14] <nQx> one moment
[09:51:59] <nQx> drake is coming
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[09:56:23] <drake|bloodbane> ok
[09:56:25] <drake|bloodbane> bad news
[09:56:37] <drake|bloodbane> let me post the last words of zenith:
[09:56:50] <drake|bloodbane> ZenithDragon scrive:
[09:56:51] <drake|bloodbane> sorry, drake. but I think I made final decision to closed servers.
[09:56:58] <drake|bloodbane> In my real life, there is a huge issue with me now. I don't know how to explain for now. but I will stop hosting servers now. I have a lot of pressure in recent days. I think I need to stop what I am doing for now.
[09:57:03] <drake|bloodbane> for all 3 servers I think I will pay for 30K total for it will stop today.
[09:57:11] <drake|bloodbane> I have to quit it now.
[09:57:29] <drake|bloodbane> let me introduce you what happened in real:
[09:57:38] <drake|bloodbane> 1- the month's expenses:
[09:57:57] <drake|bloodbane> a) Dragon: 124$/month (100mbit, 1000gb limit)
[09:58:04] <drake|bloodbane> Nightmare: same of Dragon
[09:58:16] <drake|bloodbane> c) Zenith: 92$/month (10mbit, 1000gb)
[09:58:34] <drake|bloodbane> d) leasing: 200$/month (all the three machines) x 12 months
[09:58:53] <drake|bloodbane> ok, let's now introduce the server income: 3000$ (at least, usually more)
[09:58:58] <drake|bloodbane> do your calculations
[09:59:22] <drake|bloodbane> as you can figure: income is more that expenses
[10:00:15] <drake|bloodbane> zenith have done a BIG mistake
[10:00:26] <drake|bloodbane> for just 300$/month we was able to get unlimited bandwidth
[10:00:37] <drake|bloodbane> total of 900$, no problem to keep that (3000$ income)
[10:00:45] <drake|bloodbane> but zenith greedyness won
[10:01:06] <drake|bloodbane> so we outrunned a lot of times and we had to pay taxes over taxes (in this month)
[10:01:12] <drake|bloodbane> so zenith decided to close all
[10:01:55] <drake|bloodbane> so, 'cause idragon3d is dead, i'm going to open my own server ('cause zenith have done nothing... just got money)
[10:02:08] <drake|bloodbane> more important: in all 11months of work for idragon3d i got nothing
[10:02:14] <drake|bloodbane> all in the pockets of zenith
[10:02:25] <drake|bloodbane> i just got 600$ on december
[10:02:40] <drake|bloodbane> for "merry christmas" (december income: around 10000$)
[10:03:00] <drake|bloodbane> for who ask about db
[10:03:08] <drake|bloodbane> well, bad news: i don't have access at the machines
[10:03:11] <drake|bloodbane> i'm cutted out
[10:03:13] <drake|bloodbane> too
[10:03:15] <drake|bloodbane> like you
[10:03:36] <drake|bloodbane> for, luckily 2 days ago (god exists!) i have done whole bkup of my files (codes, scripts, etc...)
[10:03:48] <drake|bloodbane> so i can start a server in 1 day
[10:04:18] <drake|bloodbane> http://www.calpop.com
[10:04:23] <drake|bloodbane> we are gonna to get a server there
[10:04:29] <drake|bloodbane> if we can get 3 servers, beter
[10:05:05] <drake|bloodbane> we need a 100mbit (but we can limit it at 10mbit too if the starting money is low. 10mbit means 1200players)
[10:05:16] <drake|bloodbane> and we need dualxeon machines
[10:05:21] <drake|bloodbane> if anyone want help
[10:05:44] <drake|bloodbane> drake@0000111.com is my paypal. if no one want help, well... we will try anyway to get them
[10:05:59] <drake|bloodbane> Shadow server is still us (is mine and of my friend)
[10:06:07] <drake|bloodbane> so we will put Dragon15x on that machine
[10:06:34] <drake|bloodbane> (luckily we have done that new server outside idragon3d and zenith itself)
[10:07:01] <drake|bloodbane> about the DB: again, i'm cutted out by zenith
[10:07:07] <drake|bloodbane> he closed access to the servers also to me
[10:07:11] <drake|bloodbane> i will try again to access them
[10:07:19] <drake|bloodbane> if i successfully get the DB, i will put them up
[10:07:27] <drake|bloodbane> but actually the success rate of this is less than 10%
[10:09:14] <drake|bloodbane> so, if anyone trust me (i hope) help me. btw i will try anyway to resurrect the servers
[10:09:24] <drake|bloodbane> i hope today to have a new webserv setup
[10:09:39] <drake|bloodbane> (actually i'm in university, i will arrive at home in 5 hours)
[10:09:48] <drake|bloodbane> so i will setup a new website and a new forum
[10:10:02] <drake|bloodbane> about your loaders
[10:10:09] <drake|bloodbane> luckily i have it under a dyndns
[10:10:12] <drake|bloodbane> so i can redirect them all
[10:10:21] <drake|bloodbane> i will write further news inside the "welcome" message
[10:11:02] <drake|bloodbane> again: i don't force anyone to help.
[10:11:22] <drake|bloodbane> if you feel to help us, nice. if you don't want/can't.... no problem
[10:11:47] <drake|bloodbane> that's all
[10:11:54] <drake|bloodbane> hope to have explained everything well
[10:12:57] <drake|bloodbane> actually our only problem is $$$, we are trying to gather what we can to get new servers (AWAY FROM ZENITH'S HANDS)
[10:13:47] <drake|bloodbane> actually we will put up the Shadow, so you will be able to play there
[10:14:36] <drake|bloodbane> if we can get money, we will put up also Nightmare/Dragon/Infinity (new name for Zenith serv... i don't want a server with HIS name)
[10:16:07] <drake|bloodbane> the 10% means that zenith will put up the servers to do something (dunno what) and.... i can get inside and steal it
Sabe o que eu acho ? Que isso não passa de uma sacanagem deles pra tentar arrecadar dinheiro. Quem garante que o nQx não é o Zenith ? Eu não acredito que o drake trabalhou esse tempo todo sem ganhar nada, apenas com exceção no Natal que ele ganhou 600$ dos 10.000$ que foram arrecadados.

Não acho viavel o cara trabalhar no server desde a versão C1 e não ter ganho praticamente nada até agora. O cara fazia TU-DO e não tinha acesso a nada ? E se o Zenith tivesse feito realmente essa sacanagem, por qual motivo ele passaria a DB pro Drake ? Pra ganhar dinheiro sem ele ? Meio improvável isso.

O jeito é aguardar ... caso iDragon realmente não volte, a gente ver o que faz.

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 12:57 pm
por RSgti80
Bem...começo a achar que despendi demasiado tempo da minha vida para...nada.

Só resta aguardar e esperar pelo desfexo...

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 1:08 pm
por shillien
O mais engraçado é o cara falar isso
drake escreveu:[10:16:07] <drake|bloodbane> the 10% means that zenith will put up the servers to do something (dunno what) and.... i can get inside and steal it
Pra que o cara vai por o server ON se ninguém vai poder entrar ? Zenith vai criar um char pra ficar passeando ? Aí enquanto isso, o Drake vai lá e rouba as coisas ... :roll: Está muito mal contada essa história.

Rui, eu não penso como você. Gastei muito tempo aqui jogando, mas nunca deixei de fazer nada pra ficar jogando. E sem contar, que todo o tempo que eu gastei jogando, foi fazendo um hobby, uma coisa que me sinto bem. Pelo menos EU, me diverti muito nesse tempo que joguei, dei muitas risadas, fiz várias amizades, etc ...

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 1:59 pm
por Pereirao
:?

Bem... É um risco que se corre ao jogar em servidores gratuitos...

Fazer o que ?

O jeito é entrar no TOP200 e ver quais as alternativas.

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 2:00 pm
por Lousy Aim
Pótz!! Que foda isso... mas sempre tem uma alternativa. Enquanto a coisa não se decide existe o Extreme. Já tem KM lá com nível alto. Vou tentar pegar os dados atualizados do servidor...

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 2:13 pm
por rauglothgor
é isso q acho triste num server privado. pra mim isso tá mais cheirando a mesma historia lá do capn quando joguei no ultima..
um server q nem dragon q tem mais de 1k de jogadores. sendo q são 3 servers, duvido q tenha pouco em doação.
mas fazer o q? quem somos pra ficar afirmando se o q ele tá falando é verdade ou não. mas como disse, pra mim isso é historia meio q manjada já. o motivo principal sempre foi $$$. então, como o drake disse q vai ser dificil de ele pegar o db, considere q todos os chars q criamos foi pro saco hoho e teremos q começar do 0 em algum server :O
o cara vir dizer q trampou pro zenith e ganhou só 600 bucks como presente de natal :O sei naoo :O
e ae? fazemos o q? voltamos pro extreme? :P é o server q vive sempre com mais gente e tá sempre no topo? sem contar q lá tem negos do km e tenho tb char :)


[]s

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 2:15 pm
por Aramist
Fala macacada !!! ^^


Tudo bem com vocês?? Bem, acho q agora já era mesmo....pqp...lá vou eu procurar outro server.....caraio...se lançarem um oficial 10x eu juro q pago !!!


100+

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 2:36 pm
por SkInS
Tb acho o mesmo Shillien ...

o Drake sempre foi o ban ban ban , lógico q tinha acesso completo as máquinas ... isso dele não ter o DB é papo furado ... , ele tem o DB sim ...
mesmo porque se ele quisesse sair do Idragon, ele como não é bobo, teria dado um jeito de pegar os DB, e depois sair fora ...

Pra mim isso é golpe pra doação ...

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 2:55 pm
por Biga
acho q semana passada quando ocorreu algo parecido q falaram q iam fechar eles arrecadaram uma boa grana, e agora podem estar fazendo d novo, acho q isso eh mentira q eles estão devendo, eles não falaram semana passada q iam coloca o server apos pagarem essas "dividas" e acho q a cobrança eh mensal não semanal

e + uma coisa, para o extreme eu não quero voltar o server eh uma merda na época q eu jogava lá eles derrubavam o server para os players votarem para o server no top 200 só dps d x votos eles colocavam o server on novamente, o server vive caindo, no top 200 eles fazem propaganda enganosa sobre o que tem no server, já joguei lá, tenho 2 chars 60+ no 7x e não pretendo voltar, com certeza deve ter algum server bom por ai.

a principio acho q é melhor esperarmos um pouco para ver o que q irá acontecer no idragon

Enviado: Seg Jan 30, 2006 3:05 pm
por solari
O é só um jogo não esqueçam disso não leve jogos a sério demais, é só para diversão, ou quem jogou no Idragon3d não se divertiu? Eu me diverti.